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#1 2021-04-17 20:10:48

Twiggy_io
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Registered: 2021-04-17
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Pluckeye using VPN Tunnel

Hello,

I was wondering if it possible to run pluckeye behind a VPN? So effectively when using the VPN you are using the network through a user/Pluckeye on a remote VPS or server. I think I could make it work, but was wondering if anyone has done this before.

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#2 2021-04-17 22:04:14

jon
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Re: Pluckeye using VPN Tunnel

Do you mean that you want Pluckeye to run on a network device and do filtering from there?

If so, that is unlikely to work well.  Pluckeye is designed to run on the endpoint device only.

Or do you mean, you want to use any old VPN and Pluckeye (on your host machine) at the same time?

If so, that usually works, but it may depend on the kind of VPN.

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#3 2021-04-18 12:29:46

Twiggy_io
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Re: Pluckeye using VPN Tunnel

jon wrote:

Do you mean that you want Pluckeye to run on a network device and do filtering from there?

If so, that is unlikely to work well.  Pluckeye is designed to run on the endpoint device only.

Or do you mean, you want to use any old VPN and Pluckeye (on your host machine) at the same time?

If so, that usually works, but it may depend on the kind of VPN.

Ah okay. Good to know, I was going for having pluckeye run on a network device and do filtering from there. Really great product thank you for the quick response. I will look into finding a different solution.

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#4 2021-04-19 15:56:46

jon
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Re: Pluckeye using VPN Tunnel

If you want to filter on the network, you might find something on

https://filters.pluckeye.net/?platform=network

If you want to use Pluckeye, but it does not support the device(s) in question, what are the device(s)?

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#5 2021-04-20 12:31:09

Twiggy_io
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Re: Pluckeye using VPN Tunnel

The endpoint devices are an iPhone and a Macbook thats running Big Sur. There are filtering methods built into these devices, however you can disable them easily with Apple account password etc. So I was looking for a network level solutions that works on all my devices at once. While the iPhone can use the VPN on the cellular network. However this might just over engineering and I need to switch devices.

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#6 2021-04-20 18:00:07

jon
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Re: Pluckeye using VPN Tunnel

FWIW, I know a few macOS users who like Pluckeye have downgraded from Big Sur.

As for iOS, there is also http://filters.pluckeye.net/?platform=ios .

There may be other solutions; I don't know.  Others may.

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#7 2021-04-20 20:43:52

RNYC
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Registered: 2017-01-14
Posts: 329

Re: Pluckeye using VPN Tunnel

Depending upon what you want to do, you can always configure your router to use a filtered DNS service. I've used OpenDNS in the past.

To secure the router and DNS account, you would make a complex password and lock it in one of Jon's lockboxes (https://lockbox.pluckeye.net/login).

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#8 2021-08-11 23:07:06

KingXanthar
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Registered: 2021-01-29
Posts: 5

Re: Pluckeye using VPN Tunnel

Twiggy_io wrote:

While the iPhone can use the VPN on the cellular network. However this might just over engineering and I need to switch devices.

This is a rabbit hole I went down, and upon switching to Android, I have not looked back. Setting an always on VPN on iOS is a real headache, and never mind actually getting the DNS set after that. I had the sunken cost fallacy of all the apps I bought from the Apple Store, but I pushed that aside and moved to Android. Using Test DPC from Github and an app blocker like Truple App Block (name might be wrong) you can enforce the private DNS setting on the Android.

In terms of comprehensive/creative solutions that are difficult to circumvent, I have been musing on that thought. I am still new to Pluckeye, so maybe that is the best solution currently. There are just the current difficulties pushed on us by Apple in the form of iOS and MacOS Big Sur. I have been creating a mind map to try and wrap my head around this technical problem which surely has a solution, but I am not quite sure yet the best option. Here are my notes from the other post I just made that might give you an idea:

"In terms of comprehensive solutions such as Pluckeye, the only other options I found were https proxy, tools like browsh, and DNS whitelist only mode. https proxies I hit a wall on in terms of enforcement on Android. There is a way to set a global https proxy on Android through the Test DPC app, but it is only guaranteed to work on the browsers and not other apps. My other thought was to install a proxy on a VPN, but then my head exploded with the confusion. Browsh is a terminal browser that pixelates all images and video to save on bandwidth. I guess it could be used and all other browsers blocked, but I am not sure of the full featured functionality or security of the browser. DNS whitelist only mode works great so far, but then if one has a work computer, your whitelist would need to grow over time. Luckily CleanBrowsing DNS has an API where you can just call a URL with the CURL command and a site could be added to one of your whitelists. Using delayed-admin for Linux, I thought of storing the API credentials in a file locked under root permissions and then I could add to the whitelist only on a delay. That would make maintaining your own whitelists a lot easier.

In summary, you have to get pretty creative with this stuff, and Pluckeye is doing just that. I just wish it was not an uphill battle against the tech giants who are nonplussed with the whole tech health situation."


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